Comments on: Leave the Mumbo-Jumbo ICF, CHAT Needs Clean Copy http://thinknola.com/post/chat-needs-clean-copy/ A Community Notebook Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:42:53 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Alan Gutierrez http://thinknola.com/post/chat-needs-clean-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-49038 Alan Gutierrez Thu, 17 May 2007 18:59:38 +0000 http://thinknola.com/post/leave-the-mumbo-jumbo-icf-chat-needs-clean-copy/#comment-49038 Frank CHAT needs to distinguish between documents used in negotiation, and messages used in outreach. The Bill of Rights/Statement of Principles has moved on. It has a new function now. It is an accomplishment. No doubt. Can we have a number list, what we want. It needs to be about as simple as the message, "The Road Home is complicated, I challenge anyone to do it right." Melanie our yourself can respond to that statement, but you don't want to make the person who says it feel stupid. (Read: "Writing Copy Even Grandma Wil Love":http://www.copyblogger.com/writing-copy-even-grandma-will-love/.) We need to have a simple message so that the rest of us can give a simple answer, not a point by point analysis. What is that message? * There is no way for us to know if ICF is doing a good job, because they have absolutely no independent oversight. That's a simple one. The contract being a 5 year contract, paid hourly, that's simple too. Frank

CHAT needs to distinguish between documents used in negotiation, and messages used in outreach. The Bill of Rights/Statement of Principles has moved on. It has a new function now. It is an accomplishment. No doubt.

Can we have a number list, what we want. It needs to be about as simple as the message, “The Road Home is complicated, I challenge anyone to do it right.”

Melanie our yourself can respond to that statement, but you don’t want to make the person who says it feel stupid. (Read: “Writing Copy Even Grandma Wil Love”:http://www.copyblogger.com/writing-copy-even-grandma-will-love/.) We need to have a simple message so that the rest of us can give a simple answer, not a point by point analysis.

What is that message?

* There is no way for us to know if ICF is doing a good job, because they have absolutely no independent oversight.

That’s a simple one. The contract being a 5 year contract, paid hourly, that’s simple too.

]]> By: franks http://thinknola.com/post/chat-needs-clean-copy/comment-page-1/#comment-49035 franks Thu, 17 May 2007 18:31:28 +0000 http://thinknola.com/post/leave-the-mumbo-jumbo-icf-chat-needs-clean-copy/#comment-49035 It was a lot simpler when it started 10 or 11 , and left pretty intact by the parish councils who got it. When the LRAturned it into a statement of principles it grew to 18 and turned out as all things do by committee, more than was needed Kind of like OCD and ICF's handling of what could have been a simple grant program, but for the reinventing of several wheels, the creation of a few un-needed cottage industries (fraud verification and inferior appraisals) and "how many more steps can we add to this before you get near a check?" thinking. fas It was a lot simpler when it started 10 or 11 , and left pretty intact by the parish councils who got it.

When the LRAturned it into a statement of principles it grew to 18 and turned out as all things do by committee, more than was needed

Kind of like OCD and ICF’s handling of what could have been a simple grant program, but for the reinventing of several wheels, the creation of a few un-needed cottage industries (fraud verification and inferior appraisals) and “how many more steps can we add to this before you get near a check?” thinking.

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